Rimini Meeting Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 11:15
(Transcript of Brother Amilcare)
Speakers: Pathe
Baldo, Director of the Ministry of Environment and Nature Protection, Senegal;
Amilcare Mouth, Head of Sector Hagaz agriculturally School, Eritrea;
Matteoli, Minister of the Environment ;
Alberto Michelini, Personal Representative of the President delConsiglio Minister for Africa;
Ignazio Musu, Venice International University, Italy;
Alberto Piatti, Secretary General of the Foundation AVSI;
Cherif Rahmani, Minister of Land Management and Environment, Algeria.
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Moderator:
Thanks Alberto. I would ask now to Amilcare Mouth, Brothers of the Christian Schools, which currently is engaged in Eritrea, to bring his reflection.
Amilcare Mouth:
Thanks. Thanks to all that was said until now.
I feel that I should sign it and endorse it. My experience in Africa is began many years ago in 1968. It 'started in Eritrea and Eritrea are still more general but as I got to travel through Africa on several occasions. I'm glad that in some areas, as they have just mentioned, there is a recovery. Probably what I will say, that comes from my personal experience - I come from there at this time - will be perhaps in dissonance with respect to this picture quite rosy. But all those you mentioned one thing: that the possibility of development is fundamentally linked to one factor, and peace. I believe that the African population has a potential and the values \u200b\u200bthat we probably do not even dream of the time. A
resilience, a capacity suffering, a capacity to survive, of which we are no longer capable. The aid is needed. Once a friend of mine, looking to unload ships at Massawa Hunger 84-85, had an expression that I did not understand then and now that I understand: each bag is a soldier who wins. It is terribly true. I therefore agree with everything that was said until now about this development or Partnership.
But I want to emphasize something that is at odds and that we must consider. Peace can only come if it comes from the justice and respect for others, reports which are based on mutual equality. Each paternalism, both between nations and between individuals, it will create conflict and will always conflict. The sub-Saharan Africa, although some manifestations of progress, I think it has the very big problems. Everyone should take its responsibilities: Africa needs to stop pointing the finger at the first world and its responsibilities. And the world must first be conscious of the responsibilities that still. Everyone is talking about human rights, we make a flag, but they are also influenced by economic, political and strategic. The Americans probably have the advantage and not the nerve to deny and not hide behind a finger.
They say they are not involved in any part if you do not have a return or financial or political. But I think many times that aid been dictated by the same philosophy. Often, and this is my basic point, in the face of dictators who reach the state of gangrene, are the first to detach and condemned. It is used too often, however, the practice of the lesser evil. Some ambassador said: "After all this is a government not as bad as it could be." Or, "all in all was not worse than others."
Or: "There is no alternative." I think that I lived in Eritrea during the dictatorship of Mengistu and now I find myself in that country which is still in conflict. The Algiers Peace is only a cease-fire. The Eritrea and Ethiopia are in a state of war. UN Secretary General has called for new Cold War very limited, but it is so. Development of which you speak? Of the people who no longer has to eat? So it is important at international level when it comes to human rights and respect for human rights has been consequential, go to the end. To think that governments that respect human rights or creating conflicts are the least worst, or that there is no alternative, will create a vacuum. It will create a vacuum that the alternatives will become increasingly difficult. Over the last dictatorship, unless an alternative is created. It's my personal experience. I am convinced that humanitarian aid have prolonged, sometimes dictatorships. As hunger helped the continuation of dictatorship? I now have the doubt that the time would be better left to die, you suffer less and is faster.
Solution? Relations between states must be based on respect for human dignity in himself, and not only dictated by the economy. When I step to Italy in recent years, I hear the fear of immigration. After the attacks on the twin towers and the London terror you have the other. My question is - because it comes from experience only a week ago -: can you stop with your laws a girl running through 2000 km of desert, endured, in one of these sinking ships, is brought into prison, returned to his home country and met on the street tells me that we try again? You turn them off? I think it is hiding behind a finger. No one will stop them. The desperation, the lack of a future, the lack of any light causes these people will come here. They are Machiavellian enough to think that if you do not want to help for a right to justice, maybe we have to do for interest. We create the conditions under which they can have a minimum of human life and the problem of these large shifts end. Rightly, the Algerian Minister has spoken to people moving within Africa and outside Africa. For me, one of the obligations and demands that I at the political level is that we must try to put into practice the theories and flags on human rights. If you do not help them die; the same die, but die suffering even more. It takes a consequential, we want to create this partnership.
It 's true and that is welcome and belies those words of my friend: a sack of grain is a soldier who wins. We respect the dignity of both the individual states. It's important. But at the same time, do not get confused. It is not through a false piety that produces development. The development may also be imposed, and only a fairer system. Let me conclude with a prayer almost to the Minister, addressed to the Ministers, including Algeria: please, do everything so that in that corner of the Horn of Africa to the Treaty of Algiers becomes a reality, because now it is not. Today in Eritrea women and men aged 18 to 50 years in the army. It's an excuse to justify a non-constitutional? It's an excuse to maintain the status quo? What is it? Withdraw them these excuses. Then we can speak of development. Church as I feel I need to say that you must be tough. It was a rebuke that made me the ambassador, "but she helps them." Let us take the task of being close to people, to give a glimmer of hope. What we have created is a great school, with girls and boys all internal and do not pay, who study agriculture, they hope, but who have no hope. Hoping to change the country, to contribute, but this che hanno davanti è un servizio militare illimitato. Per adesso. Quindi realmente io penso che lo sviluppo - e tutto ciò che è stato detto lo sottoscrivo - è possibile attraverso un partenariato che include e presuppone il rispetto dell'altro. Ma nello stesso io penso che bisogna guardare l'Africa così com'è e aiutarla a maturare. E penso soprattutto che il popolo africano abbia tutte le caratteristiche per essere già maturo da molto tempo. Aiutiamolo a crescere.
I feel that I should sign it and endorse it. My experience in Africa is began many years ago in 1968. It 'started in Eritrea and Eritrea are still more general but as I got to travel through Africa on several occasions. I'm glad that in some areas, as they have just mentioned, there is a recovery. Probably what I will say, that comes from my personal experience - I come from there at this time - will be perhaps in dissonance with respect to this picture quite rosy. But all those you mentioned one thing: that the possibility of development is fundamentally linked to one factor, and peace. I believe that the African population has a potential and the values \u200b\u200bthat we probably do not even dream of the time. A
resilience, a capacity suffering, a capacity to survive, of which we are no longer capable. The aid is needed. Once a friend of mine, looking to unload ships at Massawa Hunger 84-85, had an expression that I did not understand then and now that I understand: each bag is a soldier who wins. It is terribly true. I therefore agree with everything that was said until now about this development or Partnership.
But I want to emphasize something that is at odds and that we must consider. Peace can only come if it comes from the justice and respect for others, reports which are based on mutual equality. Each paternalism, both between nations and between individuals, it will create conflict and will always conflict. The sub-Saharan Africa, although some manifestations of progress, I think it has the very big problems. Everyone should take its responsibilities: Africa needs to stop pointing the finger at the first world and its responsibilities. And the world must first be conscious of the responsibilities that still. Everyone is talking about human rights, we make a flag, but they are also influenced by economic, political and strategic. The Americans probably have the advantage and not the nerve to deny and not hide behind a finger.
They say they are not involved in any part if you do not have a return or financial or political. But I think many times that aid been dictated by the same philosophy. Often, and this is my basic point, in the face of dictators who reach the state of gangrene, are the first to detach and condemned. It is used too often, however, the practice of the lesser evil. Some ambassador said: "After all this is a government not as bad as it could be." Or, "all in all was not worse than others."
Or: "There is no alternative." I think that I lived in Eritrea during the dictatorship of Mengistu and now I find myself in that country which is still in conflict. The Algiers Peace is only a cease-fire. The Eritrea and Ethiopia are in a state of war. UN Secretary General has called for new Cold War very limited, but it is so. Development of which you speak? Of the people who no longer has to eat? So it is important at international level when it comes to human rights and respect for human rights has been consequential, go to the end. To think that governments that respect human rights or creating conflicts are the least worst, or that there is no alternative, will create a vacuum. It will create a vacuum that the alternatives will become increasingly difficult. Over the last dictatorship, unless an alternative is created. It's my personal experience. I am convinced that humanitarian aid have prolonged, sometimes dictatorships. As hunger helped the continuation of dictatorship? I now have the doubt that the time would be better left to die, you suffer less and is faster.
Solution? Relations between states must be based on respect for human dignity in himself, and not only dictated by the economy. When I step to Italy in recent years, I hear the fear of immigration. After the attacks on the twin towers and the London terror you have the other. My question is - because it comes from experience only a week ago -: can you stop with your laws a girl running through 2000 km of desert, endured, in one of these sinking ships, is brought into prison, returned to his home country and met on the street tells me that we try again? You turn them off? I think it is hiding behind a finger. No one will stop them. The desperation, the lack of a future, the lack of any light causes these people will come here. They are Machiavellian enough to think that if you do not want to help for a right to justice, maybe we have to do for interest. We create the conditions under which they can have a minimum of human life and the problem of these large shifts end. Rightly, the Algerian Minister has spoken to people moving within Africa and outside Africa. For me, one of the obligations and demands that I at the political level is that we must try to put into practice the theories and flags on human rights. If you do not help them die; the same die, but die suffering even more. It takes a consequential, we want to create this partnership.
It 's true and that is welcome and belies those words of my friend: a sack of grain is a soldier who wins. We respect the dignity of both the individual states. It's important. But at the same time, do not get confused. It is not through a false piety that produces development. The development may also be imposed, and only a fairer system. Let me conclude with a prayer almost to the Minister, addressed to the Ministers, including Algeria: please, do everything so that in that corner of the Horn of Africa to the Treaty of Algiers becomes a reality, because now it is not. Today in Eritrea women and men aged 18 to 50 years in the army. It's an excuse to justify a non-constitutional? It's an excuse to maintain the status quo? What is it? Withdraw them these excuses. Then we can speak of development. Church as I feel I need to say that you must be tough. It was a rebuke that made me the ambassador, "but she helps them." Let us take the task of being close to people, to give a glimmer of hope. What we have created is a great school, with girls and boys all internal and do not pay, who study agriculture, they hope, but who have no hope. Hoping to change the country, to contribute, but this che hanno davanti è un servizio militare illimitato. Per adesso. Quindi realmente io penso che lo sviluppo - e tutto ciò che è stato detto lo sottoscrivo - è possibile attraverso un partenariato che include e presuppone il rispetto dell'altro. Ma nello stesso io penso che bisogna guardare l'Africa così com'è e aiutarla a maturare. E penso soprattutto che il popolo africano abbia tutte le caratteristiche per essere già maturo da molto tempo. Aiutiamolo a crescere.
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